Sunday, February 28, 2010

Should a house built in mid 60's have a clean out, or is there another main besides roof, if so where is it?

we are digging in the back yard, trying to find the main, house built in mid 60's, plumber unclogged already. Roots in main. 150 foot long snake. 2 days ago. n today, we are flooding. now what?Should a house built in mid 60's have a clean out, or is there another main besides roof, if so where is it?
Get the plumber out there again, as he did not solve the problem the first time. He should charge a ';continued'; labor charge. (time spent) This time listen outside for the sound of the snake in the line. You should hear a ';thumping'; sound.





Most main lines come out of the house in a straight line between the bathrooms. At the house it should not be deeper than 12 inches. Make yourself a probe by sharpening a 3/8 metal rod, and attaching a handle on it. Use it to probe in the ground for the sewer pipe. You can tell it from a rock by probing several times in a straight line when you hit something solid. Be careful of gas, power, and water lines.Should a house built in mid 60's have a clean out, or is there another main besides roof, if so where is it?
Nope, clean outs werent required in all states back then. Honestlly, if your having that much trouble, dig it all out and have it replaced now with PVC and the clean outs properly spaced to new codes. Once roots are into that old cast your done. There is also a chance the roots got big enough to crack the pipe. Fix it now or you'll just be throwing money at it.
It was common practise in the 60's to put in a clean-out somewhere in the basement or crawl space. These were not required everywhere and, like anywhere, contractors often looked for ways to cut corners, so they were not always installed.





If you cannot find it, have plumber come back and remove a toilet to gain access. The was seal will need to be replaced. do not let him reuse the old one.





Since you had a plumber come in 2 days ago, he should come back and finish what he started at no charge, under his warranty.





It is a good idea to have the drain scoped to see if there is an other problem. Again, he should do this under warranty to prove to you that he completed the work or that your tiles need replacing with PVC because the problem is more serious.





The time that I had a drain cleaned, the plumber was very experienced and he could feel what was causing the obstruction and where the obstruction lay.





If you decide that you want a different plumber to come in because you don't trust the first one, get one that is equipped with a scope and a locator. The locator is a device that works with his scope. The scope emits radio waves from inside the pipe that the locator detects. It can be used to determine exactly where the pipe is or, if it you have a damaged section, where the damage is located (where to dig).
Ascertain that everything the plumber did was in the contract and paid for. I agree that the plumber should be guaranteeing the work that he stated he would do. That being done, before you go digging up the yard, check with companies that may be using cameras on the snake. They will be able to determine what the exact problem is. The roots can also change the pitch, possibly causing backups.
there should be a house trap in the basement or if on a slab in the crawl space. if not try to lift the toilet nearest where u think the pipe exits the house. if on a septic system you have a broken line somewhere. if on a public sewer, and its not more than 150 # from the house to the center of the road you also have a broken line. if the hack u hired snaked 150# and didn't hit the sewer main, he just pushed the blockage further on. its either a broken pipe or u need a longer snake. u might want to call roto cause that's all they do and might have the right equip. sorry i cant paint a better picture but its gonna get worse before it gets better. it might be worth considering a new sewer main and be done with it. roots come back

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